tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post6179135253525999200..comments2023-12-31T05:01:58.031-06:00Comments on Young Stranger: Do You Have Anything Non-Alcoholic?John Gustav-Wrathallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03557940681381951271noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-38532898244147161202007-11-29T16:49:00.000-06:002007-11-29T16:49:00.000-06:00I never tasted coffee or alcohol till I was 25, an...I never tasted coffee or alcohol till I was 25, and when I finally tried them they were as gross as they'd previously seemed to my sensitive Mormon nose.<BR/><BR/>Then of course I discovered that I only objected to BAD coffee and alcohol, and have figured out what I like (Orval ale, zins, americanos...) <BR/><BR/>Chacun a son gout. But what is about Mormons, Puritans, and other temperance zealots that has so much trouble letting others be? And will I ever get over my smug contempt of smokers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-80440808639131758802007-11-28T17:33:00.000-06:002007-11-28T17:33:00.000-06:00My mother, being a Finn, was a life-long coffee dr...My mother, being a Finn, was a life-long coffee drinker. After she joined the Mormon Church, she switched to Pero. So as kids, we grew up enjoying this wonderful, not-very-coffee-like (except how it looks) drink. I still love the stuff and think coffee tastes like roasted battery acid. But I can't get Göran to drink Pero with me!!!John Gustav-Wrathallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03557940681381951271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-8903580065385743482007-11-28T17:11:00.000-06:002007-11-28T17:11:00.000-06:00That’s very sweet.I find myself in a similar posit...That’s very sweet.<BR/><BR/>I find myself in a similar position. I used to drink about a beer a night; and Rob was the occasional drinker. Somewhere through a busy autumn, though, I just stopped, but for no reason other than having too much work to do after dinner. I know I now drink far less than even my Bishop uncle, but that’s not saying much :-). Rob doesn’t care, as he hardly drinks anyway, but I have found this odd new pressure from others to sip a drink for social conventions. For example, there was no way I was getting out of a beer with my advisor after my defense, and because I’ve no moral opinion on having a beer I did, but it was more to be polite than celebrate. I wonder now how or if this affects Muslims and Mormons in their careers in this culture.<BR/><BR/>On second thought, Rob has actually often wished I’d start drinking coffee with him in the morning, but, by the tastes I’ve had, it’s baffling to me why anyone would.Scothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12350801865113852319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-34852744316528666682007-11-28T14:56:00.000-06:002007-11-28T14:56:00.000-06:00Of the two of us I think Göran has always been the...Of the two of us I think Göran has always been the more generous and giving. I think I'm getting better. Being a good Mormon has helped me with that! :-)<BR/><BR/>Göran struggled with the wine thing because A) he didn't like the idea of me reaffiliating with the Mormon Church, and it was a reminder of that and B) he saw it as a kind of legalism, which he objected to on philosophical and theological grounds. (I agree with him on the concern about legalism. As should be fairly self-evident, though, I don't live the Word of Wisdom because I feel I <I>have</I> to. I live it as a sign of faith and as a kind of spiritual discipline.)<BR/><BR/>So Göran's gesture yesterday was a huge gift to me, because it was a clear demonstration that he is evolving toward becoming much more supportive of me in my faith as a Mormon.John Gustav-Wrathallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03557940681381951271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-5953601565248518812007-11-28T14:38:00.000-06:002007-11-28T14:38:00.000-06:00You guys sound like a very loving couple. I've not...You guys sound like a very loving couple. I've noticed that in good relationships (gay, straight, whatever), the partners go the extra mile to give what the other needs.MoHoHawaiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15086670779804942122noreply@blogger.com