tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post1220621530741740324..comments2023-12-31T05:01:58.031-06:00Comments on Young Stranger: Eighteen Years TogetherJohn Gustav-Wrathallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03557940681381951271noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-43213450829638916792010-08-23T14:13:37.005-05:002010-08-23T14:13:37.005-05:00I have a pretty good relationship with God, and a ...I have a pretty good relationship with God, and a pretty good sense of where I and my family stand with him. I'm not worried. But thanks for the concern, Winifred!John Gustav-Wrathallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03557940681381951271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-32156408219050706422010-08-23T13:20:20.906-05:002010-08-23T13:20:20.906-05:00Winifred - as John frequently and generously point...Winifred - as John frequently and generously points out, our present understanding of the afterlife is necessarily incomplete, so it's best to withhold judgment.<br /><br />Considering that in our lifetime Mormon dogma just as emphatically said that John's marriage was limited to this life because he married a black person, I would be cautious about predicting where God may lead the Church in the future.E_R_and_O's Papanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-52546796117982051582010-08-22T21:50:58.202-05:002010-08-22T21:50:58.202-05:00Homosexual relationships will not exist after this...Homosexual relationships will not exist after this life. What you are doing is for this life only. A hard view, John, but a true one.Winifrednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-68088823212598258692010-08-21T17:35:20.344-05:002010-08-21T17:35:20.344-05:00Thanks, Beck!Thanks, Beck!John Gustav-Wrathallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03557940681381951271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-31569875415959941282010-08-21T11:27:24.514-05:002010-08-21T11:27:24.514-05:00I echo profound and affectionate best wishes to yo...I echo profound and affectionate best wishes to you both!Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06159223254071653666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-49445738542310762072010-08-20T13:05:14.289-05:002010-08-20T13:05:14.289-05:00Well... We have several different anniversary dat...Well... We have several different anniversary dates.<br /><br />Aug. 17, 1992 is when we first started dating.<br /><br />Sometime in August 1993 is when we actually moved in together.<br /><br />Aug. 19, 1995 is when we had our first (extralegal) marriage ceremony.<br /><br />July 25, 2008 is when we got legally married in California.<br /><br />So even though we've been together in some form for 18 years, we typically celebrate our anniversary on the date of our first wedding... It's confusing, but that comes with the territory of being gay in a heterosexocracy.John Gustav-Wrathallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03557940681381951271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-55330092283869790282010-08-20T12:44:50.585-05:002010-08-20T12:44:50.585-05:00Congrats! We celebrated our son's second birt...Congrats! We celebrated our son's second birthday on 8/19 as well, so now I will always remember your anniversary. As the son says of his lesbian moms in "The Kids Are Alright," now you're so old you have to stay together.<br /><br />E&R&O's Daddy and I still haven't gotten married or registered or had a ceremony, so we don't have an anniversary date yet (although apparently for some reason he told Facebook it's December 2002).E_R_and_O's Papanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-85492590117854825922010-08-20T08:17:19.281-05:002010-08-20T08:17:19.281-05:00GMB - Thanks! Writing that post was a great way t...GMB - Thanks! Writing that post was a great way to start out my day yesterday... I spent the whole day basically counting my blessings...<br /><br />MHH - We were actually doing some math. After 18 more anniversaries (when we're celebrating our 36th!) we'll be about "retirement" age. (Of course, in the "global economy" we probably won't be able to retire at that point.) Our goal is to live to be 100, and die peacefully in each other's arms. That would put us at our 72nd anniversary (or three more multiples of 18)! Better make sure we eat our spinach and do our push-ups!<br /><br />Charlene - Welcome, stranger! Guts and kindness sounds like my definition of love too.John Gustav-Wrathallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03557940681381951271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-54990667366079171802010-08-20T07:47:55.596-05:002010-08-20T07:47:55.596-05:00I'm a stranger too, and I congratulate you two...I'm a stranger too, and I congratulate you two for your courage and love. All there is in the world worth anything is love. Well there's guts and kindness too, but I think of those as love also.Charlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17167633465853736197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-90673853519071561932010-08-20T00:22:24.827-05:002010-08-20T00:22:24.827-05:00Congratulations! Here's to 50 more!Congratulations! Here's to 50 more!MoHoHawaiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15086670779804942122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-77115058360504552702010-08-19T22:51:16.866-05:002010-08-19T22:51:16.866-05:00Congratulations. I'm glad that your reflectio...Congratulations. I'm glad that your reflections were part of the celebrations. It's one way to be grateful to the core. Also, I loved your point that fear is the opposite of love.A Gay Mormon Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02366029507118022319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-31479338796280276632010-08-19T11:40:59.995-05:002010-08-19T11:40:59.995-05:00Konrad - I know you've had your own struggles ...Konrad - I know you've had your own struggles recently to feel respected in your relationship... Minor bumps in the overall journey though. Count yourself lucky!<br /><br />Holly - Thanks. My one regret from Sunstone is that I didn't at some point sit down with you and talk... I hope we can remedy that at future a future symposium... My world is better because of you too.<br /><br />Reuben! Thanks! I need to call you about the big bike trip! We'll have to stop for some anniversary ice cream on the way.<br /><br />MidKnight543 - it does seem like there are few of us. It used to be, couples just disappeared from the gay scene. I guess understandable in some ways. But I think we're evolving toward a fuller, more healthy community. This whole marriage/Prop 8 drama will help refine us in that way, the way the AIDS epidemic did a generation ago... We'll get there!<br /><br />Mind of Mine - Your comment makes me the happiest! You deserve the best that life has to offer, so nurture the fire of your "almost" hope...<br /><br />Brant - Thanks! Yes, I step on his feet when we dance too. That's an almost perfect metaphor for marriage, ain't it?John Gustav-Wrathallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03557940681381951271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-12289555132423532032010-08-19T11:17:24.760-05:002010-08-19T11:17:24.760-05:00Congratulations to you both, and may you have many...Congratulations to you both, and may you have many more happy years together. This year I celebrated 30 years of marriage to my wife. She cries when I dance, too, but that's because I step on her feet. Life hasn't always been easier because of her, but it has always been better.Brant Clementshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16593149504013469895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-10905798444670206132010-08-19T11:08:39.729-05:002010-08-19T11:08:39.729-05:00Wow, that is so sweet!
I am shit scared of relat...Wow, that is so sweet! <br /><br />I am shit scared of relationships due to an 18 month prison sentence and this article has almost given me hope.Mind Of Minehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09112890718925524313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-18804121592419908542010-08-19T11:01:23.244-05:002010-08-19T11:01:23.244-05:00Congratulations! Your long term relationship is o...Congratulations! Your long term relationship is one reason that I continue to read your blog. I live in SLC and had to find you living in Minnesota so that I had at least one person/couple that I could relate to. Isn't it sad that there are so few gay couples that make it this far? I know what it's like, after our time together it gets better all of the time, but sometimes it's as though we just met.MidKnight543https://www.blogger.com/profile/13278617590214062762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-79382092439308724232010-08-19T09:59:22.961-05:002010-08-19T09:59:22.961-05:00Happy Anniversary!!!Happy Anniversary!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12610344574135095983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-12913469774022943092010-08-19T09:42:50.763-05:002010-08-19T09:42:50.763-05:00Congratulations! This is so beautiful. Love like...Congratulations! This is so beautiful. Love like this is so rare and precious that I rejoice whenever someone finds it. I honestly believe the world is a better place for me because you and your husband are happy.Hollyhttp://www.selfportraitas.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2018387523779914474.post-8399001056779873642010-08-19T09:28:06.807-05:002010-08-19T09:28:06.807-05:00Congratulations! Im happy for you!Congratulations! Im happy for you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com